“No No Girls,” the girls’ group audition project organized by CHANMINA and SKY-HI, leader of BMSG, will begin streaming on YouTube starting in October. In preparation for the launch, on Aug. 9, the audition project’s theme song, “NG,” was released as a digital single. With its dope music and grounded lyrics, it’s like a sister song to CHANMINA’s iconic song “Bijin.”

CHANMINA created quite a stir with her announcement that she had married Korean rapper ASH ISLAND and was an expectant mother, moving on to a new stage in her life. Billboard JAPAN recently had the opportunity to talk with her about what went into the creation of this new song and the audition project.

Congratulations on getting married! Is everything going well, health-wise?

Thank you. I’m doing great. I appreciate everyone’s blessings. I’m doing just fine!

Around when the music video for “20” came out, a lot of people were suspecting that something was up, and your announcement right after that about getting married and being pregnant with your first child came as quite a surprise.

I thought about not mentioning anything about it, but I’ve never been a fan of hiding my private life, and I’ve always sung about my own life in my songs anyway.

I’m interested to hear what you feel as you experience marriage, pregnancy, and childbirth. I’m sure there are insights that you can only reach through those experiences. I wouldn’t be surprised if your artistic output also changes.

I think that’ll probably happen. I can already feel it. For example, I’ve gotten back that thorniness I used to have. I lose my temper easily. I think that’s because the “womanly” part of me is taking a bit of a break, in a way. I’m not trying to be well-liked–I’m not hung up on other people’s feelings. I feel like I’m standing up and taking on the challenges I really need to as a person. That’s why this song came out the way it did. It’s been a while since I rapped.

Yes, I wanted to talk about that. So the changes in your personal life are also affecting your music?

I think so. I actually tend to rap a lot lately.

When did you start working on “NG”?

Actually, I started working on it back when I was making “Bijin.” I wrote about ten songs while I was perfecting “Bijin,” and “NG” was one of them. While I didn’t release it back then, I always liked it, so I kept it in my back pocket. It felt like a good match for this audition project, so I rewrote the lyrics, reworked the sound and the melody, and changed up the flow. Really, I finally finished the song by remaking it. It’s not like somebody asked me to make a theme song, but I thought it would be better if the project had one, and that this would be a good fit.

Now that you mention it, it does feel very close in spirit to “Bijin.” Why didn’t you use this track originally for “Bijin”?

The beat was too hard, and I felt like I couldn’t fully handle it back then. It’s very unique, but also very minimal, and it really felt kind of scary. Plus, there were a lot of other things I wanted to do at the time. For example, I wanted to put in a melodic section. Now, I’m able to take on all those challenges, so I changed up a lot of parts, and this is how it turned out. JIGG, who I worked on the song with, was surprised at how the song evolved.

You said that you’re able to take on those challenges now. Why is that? Does it have to do with the changes in your personal life?

I think so. I don’t worry about the little things anymore. I’m no longer focused on “if I do this, then people will think about me that way.” That’s why the process of making “NG” was a rather fast one. I still can’t really explain the changes that happened in me very well, but what I can say is that I’m in fact changing. It’s like…I’ve become more solid.

Maybe it’s part of getting ready for motherhood.

Maybe. Until recently, I was more a “girl,” but now I’ve become more of a “woman”—more of an adult. I don’t focus so much on the little details. I’ve got bigger things to deal with now. So maybe that’s enabled me to focus on what I really need to do. “Bijin” was a struggle to write, but “NG” wasn’t at all. I knew what I wanted to say, so the whole song-writing process went more smoothly compared to the past.

The lyrics in the first half are about your experience with having your beauty denied.

I left those lyrics as-is from when I originally wrote them. “Bijin” alone wasn’t enough to finish the fight.

One of the things that gives the song such a distinctive CHANMINA feel is that it’s opposed to prejudice based on looks, but it doesn’t deny femininity.

I think you should be able to enjoy femininity. I think that beauty is the state of achieving your aesthetic ideals. So, of course, beauty will be different from person to person. For someone striving for femininity, that will be beauty. For someone who isn’t, then there will be some other kind of beauty.

And then in the second half of the song, you’re singing about human nature and attitude.

I don’t think true beauty is skin deep, but instead is achieved when outer beauty is paired with inner beauty. One of the lyrics is “Your ‘No’s didn’t kill me.” That’s about the responsibility that comes with being a person who lived on, without dying because of beauty. It has a strong sense of doing what you can.

The pronouns in the songs are also interesting. “Bijin” ends with you using “we,” which made quite an impression, but “NG” ends with you using “I.”

That’s another expression of that sense of responsibility. It’s the responsibility shown in saying “I’ll take the lead.”

I see. While the song is sung in the first person, with the lyrics sung from the position of “I,” I feel like it will resonate with anyone who has been told “No.” It will feel like “our song.” So even though you don’t use the word “we,” it expresses that collective “we.” On a wordsmanship level, it may even surpass “Bijin.”

Thank you. I feel like my lyrical skills are improving, little by little. For example, while the content of this song is hard, I don’t use the f-word even once. That’s something I’ve been trying to focus on in general.

So, I hear that this is your first interview since you announced your marriage and pregnancy. Is there anything you’d like to say to our readers?

I never expected for people to celebrate the news so much. There are so many people who have told me that they’re so happy, that it’s like they’re the ones who are getting married and becoming a mother. I’m so grateful for all the wishes, and I feel a profound sense of responsibility.

That just shows how much people are placing their hopes on you. You have to take good care of yourself.

I am. This isn’t just my own body anymore. I didn’t just feel that because of the baby inside me, but because of everyone’s reactions. I’m happy to have sung about my own life.

Right, you’re a part of everyone’s lives, now. You’ve got to live a long, happy life.

Thank you. I’ll do my best!

—This interview by Sotaro Yamada first appeared on Billboard Japan